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miklaszewski, nbc news, pentagon. >>> back here at home, fiscal cliff negotiations in washington are still up in the air. most lawmakers have gone home for a long weekend break. this as timothy geithner says the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins us live from washington with an update. good morning to you. >> reporter: let's start with geithner. he told cnbc that instead of continuing tax breaks for the wealthy, the obama administration is willing to go over this cliff which means they're willing to let your taxes go up and unemployment checks go away massive spending cuts happen if the pentagon instead of continuing the tax breaks for the wealthy. now there's been very little progress here on chiapitol hill which is why so many have gone home. we know that president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. republican sources telling us they had a conversation yesterday. we don't have a readout on what that was about. we don't know that if any meetings have been scheduled. but any small sign of progress is welcome here on capitol hill. now with
that would be impacted of congress did not act on the fiscal cliff. washington general is live at 7:00 eastern on c-span. >> at the end of world war ii, we had 12 million men under arms. today we have 1000 generals and 1.2 million under arms. we almost have an admiral forever ship in the navy. what we have done is gone through and look at areas where we could not necessarily save all of the money but transfer of responsibilities out of the pentagon and consolidate programs and save a significant amount of money. >> this weekend you can talk with tom coburn of the future of the republican party on and depth. live sunday at noon eastern on but tv. >> the program began, one of the of as as to president franklin roosevelt. to document the conditions under which people were living. this was when we did not have television. a lot of places did not have electricity said it could not listen to the radio broadcast to find out what was going on and other parts of the country. an economist from columbia, he is the head of this project. they sent from to have his photographers try out and see w
washington needs to resolve this fiscal cliff issue if they don't want consumers to stop their spending ways. >> let me start with what's going on in washington. we've got this negotiation for the fiscal cliff. if we go over the fiscal cliff, what is the impact to your business? >> well, there would be an impact on consumption, for sure. so when it comes to puma or mainstream brands in america in sports, there will be a for sure some consequences in terms of consumption. but i see that as an investment for the future. so it might be a little bit different from some of other ceos. we have to get over the fiscal cliff. let's not delay the thing. it needs efforts. let's make them short for a better future. i think we should be ready as a corporation, being ready for maybe a year of difficult market, difficult situation in the market because that is a ceiling on our growth in terms of economical growth as to be released. it's really me an investment for the future. >> you're seeing a similar situation in france where we're talking about the possibility of capital gains taxes and dividend taxes g
because of the gridlock in washington over this fiscal cliff. christine, you had a behind-the-scenes look yesterday at what's happened. >> i interviewed the ceo of fedex about the fiscal cliff, energy securities, but along the lines of the fiscal cliff there were a lot of people at this event, gene sperling, an adviser to the president, roy blount, a republican senator from tennessee there as well. people are grim right now about where we are on the fiscal cliff. i asked the ceo of fedex, he employs people. he is shipping packages. he cares about the price of oil, price of energy, and he cares about the clarity of what's happening in washington. listen so what i asked him. >> as a ceo, when you're watching the fiscal cliff, how do you make decisions? is it irrelevant to your business if we go over the fiscal cliff? how does a ceo look at what's happening in washington and decide for next year? >> most of the ceos look at the situation in washington with complete amazement and dismay to be frank about it. the problem is the ideological pinnings on both sides of this argument are so difficu
speaker, john boehner, both expressing optimism on those fiscal cliff negotiations in washington. the dow rallied 100 points yesterday off of those comments. how many times have you heard me say congress will mess it up. >>> goldman sachs ceo met with the president and others yesterday for those fiscal cliff talks. listen to what he told wolf blitzer when asked if taxes should be raised on those making more than $250,000 a year. if that's what it takes to make the math work when you look at entitlement side and revenue side, i wouldn't preclude that. of course we would have to do that if the numbers drive that way. >> he said america can't afford itself right now the way we're going. fiscal cliff talks today continue with geithner making the rounds on capitol hill. later this morning, third quarter gdp expected to be revised higher. economists expect gdp for july to september to be revised from 2% to 2.8%. that would be good news. this is still modest growth. everyone hopes that next year will be a better year than this one in terms of growth. you want to see more than 2.5% growth consist
republicans want to solve washington's fiscal cliff dilemma, and what the democrats are saying about it. we'll talk about that, and much more with our special guest this morning, the former british prime minister tony blair is with us. but planes from iran. revolutionary guards showing off what they are claiming to be is a captured american drone. coming up why the pentagon says don't believe it. >>> and baby makes three at buckingham palace. the royal couple, will and kate, creating a media frenzy on both sides of the pond with word that they are expecting. we're going to go live to london. >> talk about this morning, in addition to tony blair, we're talking to democratic congressman xavier becerra, republican senator ron johnson from the state of wisconsin, also pat houston, whitney houston's sister-in-law and manager and jeopardy champion ken jennings written a new book. it's tuesday, december 4th, "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome everybody, you're watching "starting point." we're honored this morning to have the former british prime minister tony blair with us as our guest
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around washington, d.c., and he does have a point. so if the fiscal cliff talks were happening in texas, there would be lots of talk of the two-step, but they are not. former president clinton describing the negotiations as a different kind of dance. it's a kabuki dance, sort of like two dogs that meet each other through a piece of meat. sniffing each other out. they're moving towards a deal. that's what's going on. clinton is optimistic a deal will be reached. ♪ >> and start using those precious social media skills -- >> it's all about gangnam style for former senator alan simpson. that's how he's trying to get his message out about the fiscal cliff. he explained why this morning on "today". take a look. >> i thought the guy said pretending you're riding a horse and lassoing steer. let me tell you, you have to reach young people. >> it's hard to read when you're coughing and laughing all at the same time. it's problematic, people. so, from alan simpson to the animated simpsons, mr. montgomery burns explains the fiscal cliff. >> think of the even xhooe econd the ri as a car. if you do
, but washington, you have real work to do. a looming fiscal cliff and what are we hearing? as republican senator jeff sessions says -- >> a lot of flimflam. >> flimflam. we told you last night that treasure secretary tim geithner hopscotched his way down pennsylvania avenue to bring the president's proposal from the white house to capitol hill and instead of offering compromise, he leapt to the extreme. in case you forgot, here's what his plan does. his plan taxes $1.6 trillion of taxes. higher tax rates on people, families making more than $250,000 as well as closing loopholes, limiting deductions, raising the estate tax rate and increasing the taxes on capital gains and dividends. and the plan spends nearly $200 billion. another stimulus package of 50 billion. an extension of unemployment insurance benefits estimated around $30 billion and an extension of the payroll tax cut estimated at about $114 billion. but the geithner plan didn't cut spending. in return for all of that, the president offered $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlement programs. today john boehner basically sai
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to washington and get things done can't seem to make any progress at all on the looming fiscal cliff. instead, what we have is a game of finger pointing, both democrats and republicans, what else, blaming each other for the lack of a deal. now, keep in mind time is of the essence here. automatic tax hikes and spending cuts will go into effect in just four weeks if your members of congress can't come together and do a deal. on paper, it shouldn't be too hard. it's the job the american people elected them to do and the american people expect results. they want compromise. in fact, two separate cnn/orc polls, in those polls, an overwhelming number of people, 72%, said both sides should do a better job working together in general. so the people, that's you, want compromise. yet this is how the men and women on capitol hill, the men and women you elected to work for you, have responded over the last 48 hours. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> it's unfortunate that the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> what we can't do is sit here trying to figure out what works
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. ♪ host: we will spend about two hours this morning on the "washington journal" talking about the fiscal cliff. we want to start off hearing from you on a different topic. what do you think about hillary clinton's future and her running for president in 2016? that is our question this morning on the "washington journal." you can start dialing in now, or you can contact us via social media. you can make a comment on our facebook page. you can also send us an e-mail. from "the hill" newspaper yesterday -- a new poll by abc news and "the washington post." 57% say they support a presidential bid from every clinton in 2016. -- from hillary clinton in 2016. 68% approved of her work as secretary of state. 66% hold a favorable view of clinton after her department has faced criticism over the handling of benghazi and libya. clinton also has heavy support in new york were 54% of registered voters say they would support a presidential bid by her in 2016. that is an "the hill" newspaper. we have lots of facebook comments already on this question. we want to share a couple of those with thieu. jackie
. athena jones, live in washington. we'll talk about the prospects for a deal on the fiscal cliff in the next half hour when we're joined by democratic congresswoman sheila jackson lee of texas and republican congressman tim huelskanm. >>> the united nations general assembly voted overwhelmingly yesterday to upgrade the status of the palestinian authority to non-member state. palestinians celebrated this endorsement of the move towards statehood. but the united states and israel strongly opposed the resolution. cnn foreign affairs reporter elise labott is in washington to explain what it all means. why do the u.s. and israel think this is not a good move for -- for palestinians? >> well, christine, i mean, it signals the frustration on the part of the world, and the lack of the peace process. and what the u.s. is saying is that it really doesn't give the palestinians what they want, which is an actual state. it doesn't give them borders. it doesn't give them any sovereignty. and so all of their u.s. argues is going to do is antagonize israel and lead to more frustration if israel
the fiscal cliff? do you think we will go over it? what does it mean? we get taxes, will be cut. no, taxes will go up. spend willing be cut. everyone wants, almost everybody wants spending to be cut. what do you think will happen? >> let's look at wall street. what might happen to the 401(k)s or the stocks. last week, boehner said nothing is happening and stocks would plummet. somebody else would say something going on behind the scenes and stocks go up. this is tremendous volatility. this time of year we get santa claus rally, the stocks will rally until the end of the year. but if the taxes go on, on capital gains and dividends, people will start to sell now to have the better, more preferential tax treatment than afterwards. we may see selling in first of the year. >> eric: long-term, think long-term. once we get past that. what will the effect be? what if taxes on dividends go up? >> this is incredible disincentive. especially on the capital gains. to take the risk of investing. when you say long-term, long-term, if you don't need the money you invest in stock market. if you need it in
thes right. cult, the fiscal cliff is the ng er difficult situation facing washington. and we just heard senator gndsey graham, a republican say the whiok, we've given a little bit. ho now we're waiting for the white ayed. to give a little bit on ectitlements is the game that's being played. what do whoa expect next? > we'll go back and forth. key thing to keep an eye on, is this tax rates going up. republicans, including lindsey graham, have talked about revenue. taxhe said i don't ever want to see tax rates go up. that's that's the key thing to watch. ortedjor reported, the president is saying tax rates must go up. we only way you're going to buy ans to get tans to get tax rates to go up would be to show some ewhere whereon somewhere where democrats would feel some pain thethat would be in the entitlement area. curity,sident doesn't want to ments social security and really republicansng to do something n ultimatws republicans to save ace in an ultimate deal where hey can say, look, this is what we got. we didn't just totally get rolled by the president. f front page of the wall
today, you know, what's going on in washington and, you know, with this fiscal cliff and, you know, what the impact will be of it. >> well, it's an important point. how is the project funded? where did you source the funding for the development? >> that's one of today's challenges. you don't get to the same costs you would typically get them. it requires more equity and piecing together the banks to put together a loan of the size needed for this. probably our greatest challenge would be -- because we're looking to build. this is only 1,700,000 square feet, in the first phase 6 1/2 million, where's the rest of the capacity to come from for the construction loans that we need? >> the banks were the first source? >> yeah. >> and we're looking at other sources going forward that are kind of unconventional. you have to think outside the box. >> oh, definitely. >> in order to do a job like this today. >> what kind of unconventional sources? >> well, you have a lot of these public reits, you know, that are looking for greater yields, so it's the whole period, i don't know how you do constructi
in never neverland. so much for a week of work here in washington to avert what's called the fiscal cliff. treasury secretary tim geithner gave house republicans new ideas on resolving the fiscal cliff. and left with their anger ringing throughout the capitol. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. i've got to tell you, i'm disappointed. >> reporter: here are the big white house numbers. for $4 trillion deficit reduction in ten years, $1.6 trillion comes from households earning more than $250,000 a year. $400 billion in entitlement cuts in program like medicare and medicaid and $50 billion in new spending next year for inf infrastructu infrastructure. there's another idea. a permanent cease fire on raising the debt ceiling now $16 trillion that would allow it to rise automatically. republicans use the debt ceiling last year to extract spending cuts and they don't want to give up that leverage. >> there's a lot of things i've wanted in my life but almost all of them had a price tag attached to them. and if we're
the so-called fiscal cliff. >> you have to nail this down. uncertainty is killing us. >> reporter: top economists talked about the impact of tax increases and government spending cuts on the middle class. >> a couple thousand dollars, means a couple months rent for this family. >> reporter: the white house has made clear the country could go over the cliff, if republicans refused to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. >> for them to be burdened, unnecessarily, because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem, gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: republican leaders say they will close loopholes loopholes and eliminate tax breaks to raise money. but insist that bush-era tax cuts must be extended for all americans. >> reporter: the standoff and the country's skyrocketing debt, concerns ryan shenecki. so much so that he's the guy in the suit, dancing gangnam style with former senator allen simpson. >> i'm keeping up on this baby. >> reporter: his group, the cankicksba
, with only four weeks to go before we reach that fiscal cliff, republicans offer a proposal for a new deal. it had few specifics. the white house rejected it. tracie potts joins us from washington with the details. >> reporter: good morning, everyone. with a white house proposal and republican proposal on the table, you'd think we would have somewhere to begin negotiations. the white house says what republicans have offered isn't even a start. six governors, democrats, and republicans weigh in on the fiscal cliff today. what will they tell president obama about the spending cuts and tax increases now just 28 days away? >> we must reign in our out of control spending. >> reporter: republicans have an offer, $800 billion in new taxes, half what the president wanted. $600 billion saved in part by making americans wait until they're 67 to get medicare. plus more cuts totalling $2.2 trillion. but no tax hikes for the wealthy. >> that's just not going to happen. >> reporter: the pentagon could take the biggest hit from president obama told defense experts monday, don't worry. >> even as we make
and no fiscal cliff fights are going to stop him from a shopping blitz at washington's new costco super store. the veep came looking for pies and left with a television, books, fire logs, and a huge smile trailed by a horde of surprised shoppers. >> just walking through this store. get some guidance. >> you know, i have a feeling that the president may have missed his usual lunch partner at the midday meal today. joining us from washington is msnbc own historian the great chris matthews, the host of "hardball" and the author of quk jack kent, elusive hero," available now. highways t that's the advertising over. we learned the menu including white turkey chili and no humble pie after all. >> no dessert at all. i wondered about that double helping of poultry. what a strange meal. the turkey and then the chicken part. it's a strange meal. must have been dietary rules. i don't think that's a natural decision by the chef. strange meal. >> how do you think the meeting went though in truth? >> i think it's been screwed up because mr. romney, the governor, gave a wonderful concession speech, he came
are headed here to washington today to tell president obama their thoughts on the fiscal cliff. the bipartisan group says both sides need to work together to avoid the tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end of the year. >> no one's going to get what they want, but as a country to move forward, we've got to figure out who gives where, and if everything is going to be out on the table, how do we negotiate that? >> reporter: republicans have given a counterproposal to the president's plan which he issued last week. they say their plan would cut $2.2 trillion from the federal deficit over ten years. with $600 billion in health care cuts, $300 billion in cuts to mandatory spending and another $300 billion in cuts to other federal spending. the biggest difference between the republican plan and the president's remains taxes and how the government can generate more revenue to pay down the debt. >> rates have to rise on the top 2%. there's no other way to do it. >> reporter: president obama says his plan will raise taxes on the rich, bringing in $1.6 trillion. republ
expenditures. washington journal is live every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern. our coverage of the fiscal cliff has reached speaking with the house speaker and the minority leader. president obama speech to members of the business roundtable about the negotiations and the economy. he told ceos he would not negotiate. because of technical problems, we can only show you part of his remarks. >> we are grateful for both the electricity and the engagement we have had with members of your team. i know your team has really reached out significantly over the last few months to many people in this room and i know personally, the outreach to us is genuine and we know you are seeking solutions. but that was outlined very sincerely this morning when we met with jack and the rest of the team. i hope you get the same sense of purpose and commitment from us as we engage with you. there aren't a lot of wallflowers' in here. we are eager for a two-way exchange nonetheless. hopefully your take away would be to have a useful purpose in the dialogue. mr. president, thank you for joining us today. [applause] >> good mo
. the fiscal cliff, by the way, whatever comes out of washington at the end of the month or the beginning of the first quarter, whenever it is, it's an austerity plan. it's not a growth plan. they're cutting back. they're not adding at this point. what else? there are other things going on that could put a crimp on the markets. >> layoffs. >> it's the first year of a new presidential cycle, which traditionally is the worst year for the stock market in the four-year cycle. take that, mr. bull. >> all right. >> go ahead. >> a lot of cycle stuff doesn't work, right? the past performance is not indicative of future results. that's the first thing i'll say. number two, in terms of the whole fiscal cliff situation, what's going to end up happening is we need to better match revenues and expenses. we're running a business in america. corporate america, consumer america. now it's the government's turn. not a matter of if but when something gets done. whether it's some arbitrary dade of december 31st or they kick the can down the road to february or may 14th or whatever, they'll get the deal done.
interview you just saw move the needle in terms of the fiscal cliff being any closer to a deal? chief washington correspondent john harwood watching this event closely. john. >> reporter: i think what we saw in that interview that steve had was further confirmation of the fundamental outlines in the administration's strategy. one, rates have to go up. they're trying to break republicans on the issues of rates. although, they're not insisting that rates go all the way up to 39.6. you could see something in between. the second thing is they're taking a very hard line on the debt limit. the president said in remarks today to the business round table he has some cover from business on that because they don't want to see that limit that could be damaging to the u.s. credit raiting. the combination of those two things are the fundamental levers the administration is going to try to use to force republicans to compromise. then the compromising from the administration will come on the issues of entitlements, medicare, social security is, and medicaid. >> all right, jauohn. thank you so much.
and throughout the country on the impending fiscal cliff. tonight on "special report," president obama visits a middle class family in virginia to emphasize the need for extending bush era tax cuts for all but the top 2%. republicans want to focus on spending cuts. the president is resisting. we'll explore that. one of the senate top conservative is leaving. south carolina tea party favorite jim demint is resigning. he will become the head of the hair tage foundation think tank. we'll talk to him live. new worries tonight about chemical weapons in syria. u.s. officials told foxyian officials -- syrian officials have loaded it on canisters to be dropped from above. on a lighter side why simpson is dancing like this to promote fiscal reform. "special report" from washington starts at 6:00 eastern now. back to new york and my colleagues with "the five." ♪ ♪ >> andrea: welcome back to "the five." well, you are looking live at the national christmas tree lightinger? washington, d.c. any minute, the president will be lighting the 48-foot spruce, that sits on the white house. and when he does, w
hearing out there? what's your take first on the fiscal cliff? what are you seeing in terms of customers? how is it influencing your decisions? >> i'd say it's paralyzed everybody. you're hearing this from everybody. we all are sort of watching this dance in washington and not understanding, like -- i think it's common sense has left washington. you have to come up with spending cuts. i think those of us that will be targeted in a tax hike, which i don't consider a tax hike, really. i think the payroll tax cut, which didn't really work, it didn't boost the economy. also, the rising capital in income tax rates is acceptable, but only if the democrats get serious about cutting spending. >> so far, we haven't seen any real ideas in terms of -- >> it's a joke. it's a joke. you get more revenue from raising taxes, but you haven't cut spending. you're just putting off another disaster. it's so obvious you should raise the retirement age in the united states. there are easy, noncontroversial things. >> we're living until 100 now. we still vice president chanhad retirement age. >> i think $250,0
about this fiscal cliff and her attitude toward it. i want to you react to it. >> sure. >> it's not a good idea to go over the fiscal cliff. no one wants to see that happen. it is a bad idea. but a worse idea is to accept a compromise that allows the wealthy americans to continue to not pay their fair share because the result of that will be middle class families will bear the entire burden of the challenges that this country faces. that's not fair or responsible. >> how do we do it? how does this country manage to get a decently fair deal in time to beat this cliff, avoid it? >> tom cole said it all. take what the president has offered right now. make sure that 98% of the people aren't affected by any tax increases. that's how we get it started. and patty is absolutely right. we have all these problems facing us and this is the way to do it. a bad deal would be saying to the millionaires and billionaires, you're going to get a big tax break. that's what the elections was about. we held an election. it isn't as if this was a sidebar issue, chris. this was a main issue. >> i kn
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washington as we keep our eye on fiscal cliff negotiations. we have an important profit warning today. shares of darden at a ten-month low after the restaurant operator cut its full year guidance. rachel rothman downgraded darden last month from positive to neutral with a $58 price target and joins us now on the cnbc newsline. thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. it's become a busy morning for you. >> thank you, simon. thank you for having us. >> what's gone wrong at darden? the ceo is saying we had promotions. they didn't resonate well. we need bolder changes at red lobster, olive garden and longhorn steakhouse. >> they spent the last couple years trying to repotool menus d change limited time offers in an effort to reengage with core customer and drive positive traffic. unfortunately the efforts that they unveiled to this point have yet to actually take hold and so they are issuing a disappointment here for the quarter and for the full year citing negative same store sales at their core brands. >> is that partly because of the delayed rolled out of olive garden changes or because they
officials would behave like spoiled children in the fiscal cliff discussions. only 28% said they would behave like adults. tonight signs that maybe some adult behavior might be prevail and a compromise might be reached. jessica yellen joins us, dana bash and david gergen. what's the latest? >> reporter: they are a long way from a deal, but late today speaker boehner and president obama did speak to one another on the phone. now, this is an important development because it's the first time they've talked in a week about the fiscal cliff. i am told, though, that there was no real progress in negotiations. in this sense there was no breakthrough on that central point of tax rates. as you know, president obama insists there is no deal unless the gop agrees to raise rates on the top 2% of earners. the gop says that's a nonstarter and the two men have not moved from that basic position. now, all of this quomz comes at the same time treasury secretary geithner also said for the first time the administration would be willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop does not agree to raise those
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this morning begins in washington where fiscal cliff negotiations according to the "times" has "collapsed." at least for now. with less than a month until the deadline, who blinks first if anyone? >> goldman takes dell from a strength to a buy. is it time to look at the stock and maybe even other players in the beat up personal computer sector? >> manufacturing data out of china. not bad. 50.6. that's the highest in seven months. although shanghai again trades lower even europe's pmi improves a touch in november. first up, we're one month away from the fiscal cliff and so far the white house and congressional republicans are still in disagreement over how to reduce the deficit and avoid a raft of tax hikes and spending cuts. yesterday our own jim cramer and maria bartiromo were on "meet the press" and cramer had a message for fellow panelists and father of the anti-tax pledge, grover norquist. >> most ceos are republican. they're on board. they're not on board with you. they're not on board with you because they fear your view. they think you do not favor going -- you favor going over the
the program. >> reporter: and, of course, going off the so-called fiscal cliff means a tax hike for just about everybody who does have a job. but today, treasury secretary timothy geithner said the president is absolutely willing to go off the cliff unless republicans agree to raise tax rates. >> there's no prospect for an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember, it's only 2%. >> reporter: and on that, no progress. >> where are the specifics? where are the discussions? nothing is going on. >> reporter: there have been no real talks between the white house and republicans for a week. but late today, diane, one possible sign of progress. the president and the speaker of the house spoke via telephone. neither side would give any details about what was said, but the stock market closed higher today with traders, at least, apparently optimistic that a deal will be reached. >> one phone call can do that. okay, thank you, jonathan karl. >>> and now, we head overseas to cairo. another day of bloodshed and chaos there. battles erupting in
as democrats and republicans dig in and ramp up the rhetoric on the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner and senate majority leader harry reid trading jabs before the cameras on capitol hill. >> going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> speaker boehner made very clear at his press conference that he thinks the ball is in your court and the president's court. he says democrats have got to get series about spending cuts. where is the disconnect? >> i don't understand his brain so you should ask him. okay? >> reid making those comments to our own kate bolduan. i'm joined by dan lothian. dan, we're learning more about the white house plan to deal with the fiscal cliff. break it down for us. >> reporter: right. this is the plan that secretary -- treasury secretary timothy geithner took up to capitol hill yesterday. it calls for $1.6 trillion in tax increases over a ten-year period more than republicans had anticipated. in addition to that, $400 billion in spending cuts that will
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